Episode 4.11 Episode Discussion -- Literary License to Kill

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Well, Jacky is really late putting up our thread this week, so I figured I'd go ahead and do it! She or a mod will add a sticky!

Ooh! The previews are quite intriguing!

We could see it coming from a mile away—Tasha going back to Iraq. Still, it’s sad that it happened… Such anguish about her friend—I can’t even imagine being in that kind of situation…

My favorite line in the ep: “It’s not even grammatically correct!” Second—“Don’t worry about the money—you’ve got yourself a daddy!”

Well, Henry saw the writing on the wall, and it’s sad, kinda. But that relationship didn’t really have staying power because I think Tina hooked up with him for the wrong reasons.

I am so disappointed that Kit is still drinking after Papi knew the deal! At least she recognizes that Angus still cared enough to take her to a meeting.

I really wanted to see Bette kick Jenny’s a**!

Kate is slimy!

Sweet about the fact that Shane hooked up that special surprise for Paige!

I figured Catherine would have cut off the charge card from Geneva! But still, Helena needs to get out of that situation immediately!

The mid-life crisis convo—CS’ real-life daughter is cute!

Sweet convo between B & T, so much went unsaid, but it’s clear they still care about one another.

Max and Grace—not how I thought it would go down, but this should be interesting.

Jodi is gone, and Bette wants to go after her. Hmm…what good could come out of that; I doubt that Bette is gonna move to New York after her. Still, I’m sorry they didn’t have a conversation before Jodi got on the plane, though.
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skydiver19 · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject:

Phyllis' husband called Alice a cream puff!
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Lamentamini · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject:

wingedwonder · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject:

I'm not in the mood to laugh. *sigh*. One more to go...Clenex please!
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leiasolo1971 · Jenny's Answering Machine Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 25

Dana makes an appearance next show! :-D :-D :-D

detfig · Jenny's Answering Machine Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 26

well, despite the fact Bette is off running after jodi next week, i for one was excited to see her give Tina a kiss aiwebs2

I'm still holding out hope for these two, as i am for kit and Angus. He deserves a second chance just as much as Bette did with Tina. But best of all, DANA appears. Ok so she's only a ghost, or a figment of Alice's imagination but it's good to see her. IC is kinda ripping a page from the Xena series where after Xena died Gabby could still see her.

The part of this show that really ticks me off is the Max character/Arc. Not only did he whine about being a man through the entire third season and all of season four, he's now considering not going through with it? What happened to 'he's felt this way since he was 13'? When it comes time for the change, most pre-ops, if not all, are only to happy to get their breasts removed and burn their chest restraints. Of course I'm no expert on trans gendered folks, on the other hand, I've seen enough documentaries on the subject to know either IC is copping out from pressure or she just hasn't researched enough to bring us a credible storyline for Max's character/decision.
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lwsho2005 · Kit's Guitars Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 220

I thought it was weird to have kids at a weeknight show at the Planet.

Kit is just ridiculous, drinking, drugs, feigning lesbianism. Gosh IC we actually wanted a story line for her not this crap.

Tina is still very frustrating. She went after Henry and he obliged. She pretended to be "with" him as the neat little family. She seems to want to break up with him, but isn't able to just come out and say it. It was very sad and mean for her to say "you're not going to do anything". Well Tina he was the safe, predictable man you sought, why slam him for being as advertised? Look in the mirror baby, he's not your problem. Once again she's flirting before actually leaving her relationship. (Eric - OK Bette was a blindside so no real foul there, Helena - one could say she was still connected to Bette, so maybe a pass there, Bette - with Daddyof2, Josh and Henry in my book, Henry - flirting with both Kate and Bette). She throws out these lines with Bette, but if she wants her she never just comes out and says it. Communication is still an issue with her for me.

Bette really doesn't want to be alone and has a lot of love to give. I hope she gets her happiness soon. I just think that it still lies with Tina.

Alice is very selfish and has a great history of pressing and not listening. She is clueless about Tasha's situation yet doesn't really listen when she tries to clue her in. We've laughed it off when its been with the girls, but with Tasha its serious stuff and she just doesn't get it. Unless Tasha plans to retire soon Alices is a bad match for her.

carmela225 · Jenny's Answering Machine Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 43

Why can't they just let Jenny and Kate go together, Bette and Tina go back to each other, and Jody go back to Amy? Why all this unnecessary drama! Rolling Eyes

No way is Bette going to MOVE to NY. Her career and Angelica are in Ca. She's going to make the grand gesture to get Jody back, but it's not going to work out.
Dana next week. Can't wait. Smile

Too much Max time again.
Thought the opening with Kit and Papi was hysterical.

skydiver19 · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject:

I was hoping they would show Bette fire Jenny's *** and tear her apart limb from limb before throwing them out to the Pacific Ocean.

BUT, that's just my version of the finale. Certainly nothing like the tractor joke of a storyline we know is coming next week.
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susannah · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject:

lwsho, you nailed it again!!! Tina being her usual self..never taking responsibility for her choices, getting mad if they are pointed out! She has cheated on everyone but no one is supposed to notice this.

agree also with you on Alice. I have always thought she is selfish and doesn't give a thought to anyone else's feelings really. I never liked it with the girls either but this is different with tasha.

I don't want Bette with Tina..but with someone who will treat her with respect and love, and accept hers...she has so much to give.
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catcat · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject:

I just love Tina in this epi it's great that Tina WAS the one that Bette came to .I am starting to like Kate more,because she is going to help Tina get Jenny good,gooo Kate and Tina. aiwebs2

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detfig · Jenny's Answering Machine Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 26

woah! who has tina cheated on? correct me if I'm wrong, but it was bette who did the cheating, and then while Tina was preggers she started craving men, she wasn't honest about it, and we can debate cyber sex and cheating till the cows come home and not change one another's opinions on it, but she didn't actually cheat on bette with anyone. We saw bette cheat twice! we have no idea who else she was shagging in the mean time.

Alice, didn't she go at the drop of a hat to shane a couple episodes ago when shane needed someone to talk to? didn't she make shane feel better by defacing that billboard? I think Alice is a perfect match for Tasha's strict military personality. The woman needs to lighten up already! We get one life, enjoy it to its fullest.
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sunshine* · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:53 pm Post subject:

so, did B&T kissed in this ep. or is it on the next one? Cool

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lwsho2005 · Kit's Guitars Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 220

detfig...here is Tina's "cheating" history

1. She was Eric's girlfriend when she first started to see Bette. Let's overlook that because she was totally taken aback by Bette and her reaction to Bette.

2. She was clearly with Helena when she had post ultrasound sex with Bette. Now was she really completely done with Bette? maybe that's a pass too.

3. There is no doubt in my mind that Josh was pure and simple cheating. She flirted with him, hung over him and went to Vancouver with intent to have him. Just because he didn't "get in" doesn't mean it wasn't cheating. To this day as far as we know, she never devulged this to Bette, thus she thinks it was cheating too.

4. She pursued Henry right in their pool then had sex with them in their bedroom. Sorry the fact that Bette told her to leave and figure out what she wanted doesn't quite mean screw whoever you want in our home.

5. Daddyof2 was also cheating. Even Tina looking over her shoulder and doing it in the dark suggested she thought it was cheating too. Would you expect your spouse to have phone sex with anyone but you? Internet sex is the same in my book.

This isn't meant to make Tina into a horrible character. You asked the question and these are the facts.

susannah · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:25 am Post subject:

I agree...tina was still living in Bette's home when she was having sex with Henry, also in Bette's home. How is that anything but cheating?

In addition, she told Bette when Melvin was in the hospital that she was going to see Bette and helena...Did Helena know this?

I think she cheated on Helena when she and Bette had ultrasound sex...whether or not Tina had feelings wasn't the issue..she was with Helena.
Bette cheated ONCE..with Candace.
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